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| Administrator Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,951 ![]() | There has been a new article posted. Title: Can We Trust the 80 Plus Certification? URL: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/856 Here is a snippet: "The 80 Plus certification was an important step to change the scenario from the power supply industry: now the savvy consumer knows that he or she should buy a power supply with at least 80% efficienc..." Comments on this article are welcome. Best regards, Hardware Secrets Team http://www.hardwaresecrets.com |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Sweden Posts: 576 ![]() | The temperature issue is real, but not as absolute as suggested. Many computer cases are designed to provide the PSU with fairly cool air, either directly from outside the case or via some minor heat source. Another aspect is the efficiency at low power output. The 80 Plus standard only go down to 20% of the PSU's rated maximum, which may very well be much above the computer's "idle" consumption. In this region the efficiency is also much lower than it is at 50% output. Finally, another "cheat" in the 80 Plus testing is that the test is done at 230V input voltage (provided the PSU is supposed to support that voltage at all). That will usually provide an efficiency some 2-5% units better than if the PSU is fed 115V. In all I still think the 80 Plus certification is a step in the right direction. To improve it there should also be additional requirements for the efficiency at higher temperatures, like 45C, as well as for fixed lower output levels, like 10, 20 and 40 watts. Cheers Olle |
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| Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 USA Posts: 2,553 ![]() | Nice comments, Olle P. As they are based in the USA they should be testing at 115 V... Cheers, Gabriel. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 183 ![]() | I agree that the 80Plus temperature standards should be upgraded. Especially since it seems like the best suppliers of PSU have already met higher standards. Read what was said of the first PSU, Seasonic of course, to meet 80Plus standards in 2005. http://www.80plus.org/docs/press/Fir...wer_Supply.pdf Quote:
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| Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 53 ![]() | Since 80Plus is in NA, they test PC power supplies at 115VAC, not 230VAC. __________________ Engrish is not my mother tongue. itocp.com psu editor |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 183 ![]() | According to their web site 115V is used for "power supplies certified for desktop, workstation and non-redundant server applications." http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_join.aspx |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Sweden Posts: 576 ![]() | Quote:
That list seems aimed at the domestic market and divided in two mostly based on what input can be used in an environment where most outlets are 115V. The actual test protocol states: Quote:
Since most PSUs are rated 110-240V (or even wider range) any of the specified voltages is valid. My gut feeling is that if they didn't use the higher voltage for the actual test (reading "nameplate input voltage" as the higher value in the range) some PSU manufacturers would get very upset... Cheers Olle | ||
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 183 ![]() | Quote:
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The 80Plus application also makes the point of what voltage the unit is to be tested. http://www.80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_application.aspx Here is what 80Plus is about on there about page: Quote:
The last point is, this is the list of 80Plus certified PSU. If you look at the Efficiency Report for a certified PSU, under the Rated Specifications for the tested unit is the voltage used. | |||
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