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Old 04-06-2012, 06:50 PM   #1
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Default First Time build gaming/modeling

I am looking to build a computer for gaming and 2D/3D modeling.

I have a budget of about $1200 ~ $1400 for the tower alone.
I am trying to build a computer but it's difficult trying to tell the differences of what is being offered.

So far I am considering the following:

MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128532

CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115070

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130683

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820147133

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231315

PSU: No idea

Case: No idea

Cooling: no idea

Total so far: ~$1100

I would prefer a quiet and cool (temperature) computer.

Any suggestions and criticism would be very welcome. None of the components are set in stone and subject to change.
Thank you for your input and your help!
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:21 PM   #2
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In general, I like your ocnfiguration. However, unless you're cool with only 64GB of storage, You might want to get a second mechanical HDD for storage (like this).

As for the other parts, I'd go with something like:

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341048

CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811139009 is good, but it depends what look appeals to you.
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Your motherboard and CPU are not compatible. LGA2011 socket motherboard and LGA 1155 CPU. Either pick a 6 core (12 with HT) Core i7 3930K @ $600 or pick a 1155 Z68 motherboard (usually ranges around $120-$150).

Also I'm not sure if you value gaming over modeling or modeling over gaming. If you value modeling, I think the LGA2011 + 3930K might be better.

The GPU looks horribly overpriced. In fact, it's more expensive than the next tier of GPU (the 560 Ti 448 core which is basically a 565). Unless the 2gb of VRAM is what you really need, I'd get the 448 core.

Like c.hegge said, you'll need a mechanical HDD as a 64gb would get filled up relatively quickly. I'd assume you'd want to load your 3D modeling on to your SSD and your games onto your mechanical HDD.

Remember that you'll want a DVD or Blu-Ray burner and an OS unless you've got Linux.
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Okay, thanks for pointing out that the CPU and MB aren't compatible. So I was looking at some 1155 Z68 motherboards

I was wondering what the difference between these two motherboards were:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128512

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128506

They seem identical to me.
I have a few parts already: DVD burner, HDDs, monitors, and OS.
Thanks again for the input!
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:08 PM   #5
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The more expensive one has a 12 phase power design.

Gabe has an awesome article about this here:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...or-Circuit/616

The GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 (blue PCB) looks like it has 4 chokes + 3 chokes for CPU/Memory/Video. The GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P (the black PCB) has 12 chokes + 3 chokes.

While the UD3 is adequate- especially if you're on a tight budget, the UD3P is probably better if you prefer overclocking/tweaking your system.

Gigabyte motherboards are good, but there was some sort of BIOS issue awhile back that caused bootloops (you can see it in reviews section). This happens from time to time with all motherboards (for example, my old ASUS needs to get flashed to run certain stepping Phenom II CPUs) and should be something to be aware of. Sometimes good companies get bad batches of products (this is especially true if they're based on OEMs so problems.)

Both are manufactured by Foxconn.
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Both are manufactured by Foxconn.
Huh? ASUS and Gigtabyte make their own boards. You can tell because Foxconn doesn't mark the capacitor polarity backwards like ASUS does. Gigabyte's designs have always been very different to those of Foxconn too.

The only major brands that don't make their own boards are Intel (which are made by Foxconn) and ASRock (which are made by ASUS)
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Huh? ASUS and Gigtabyte make their own boards. You can tell because Foxconn doesn't mark the capacitor polarity backwards like ASUS does. Gigabyte's designs have always been very different to those of Foxconn too.

The only major brands that don't make their own boards are Intel (which are made by Foxconn) and ASRock (which are made by ASUS)
I noticed that both the UD3 and UD3P have "Foxconn" stamped on the back of the CPU plate. I would speculate that at least part of the motherboard is sourced from Foxconn. Some old news from '04 suggested that the two have had partnerships before, so it's not impossible.

I've seen other companies outsource products. Even Micron (Crucial) occasionally uses Samsung chips.
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Most boards use Foxconn CPU sockets. In fact, there are only two companies who make them as far as I know (Foxconn and LOTES). But the boards themselves are made by Gigabyte.
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Foxconn is a HUGE company, and they manufacture almost everything you can think of. One of their main product segment is sockets and connectors, and that is why you will see their brand stamped on some CPU sockets. That means the socket was manufactured by Foxconn, but not necessarily the whole motherboard and components.

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Ah I see. I heard Foxconn and Gigabyte had collaborated together in the past and assumed Foxconn was providing OEM support to Gigabyte.
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