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Old 04-14-2012, 03:16 PM   #1
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Question First Time Custom Pc Help!!

This is my first time building a pc tower and wanted to know if the parts that i picked out will work with each other and if there are other parts that might be better suited for a $1300-$1700 budget?

CASE: http://www.nzxt.com/new/products/crafted_series/phantom

MOTHERBOARD: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...639&CatId=7248

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103996

RAM: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...145&CatId=4534

VIDEO CARD: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...614&CatId=3669

HARD DRIVE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167093

SOUND CARD: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...122&CatId=2771

PSU: http://www.xoxide.com/apevia-1100wwa...wersupply.html
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:34 PM   #2
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Very very poorly optimized, what is your intention with the build?

Email/web browsing only?
Games? Which games? At what resolution/graphics settings?
Which other resource hungry applications?
Are you willing to overclock?
When are you going to build it? How long are you willing to wait?

The only component I'd keep from that list is the SSD. Plan on building around an ivy bridge i5, or if you don't need that much performance, save some money with a sandy bridge i3.

The CPU I'd buy for my self with that budget is the i5 3570k, which is to be released in a couple weeks and for $225 will have better CPU performance than that AMD processor, and better integrated GPU performance than that GT520. If you don't need that much power, I'd get an i3 2100 and put the savings toward monitor/chair/keyboard/mouse. If you need a discrete GPU, you almost certainly need a better discrete GPU.

RAM(assuming you actually need that much RAM, more ram only helps when you don't have enough.): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226257
If you don't actually need 16 GB, get this instead: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226219

Sound card: just use the motherboard's onboard audio.

PSU: depends on whether you get a discrete GPU, a quality powersupply at the rating you actually need is going to outperform much higher rated PSUs.
If you don't need a discrete GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151086
If you do need a discrete GPU, you'll need a slightly bigger PSU, maybe this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371045

I can only get more specific after hearing what you're using it for.

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Old 04-15-2012, 06:55 AM   #3
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Well, I'd use it for gaming. Battlefield 3 and some Modern Warfare for starters...Would prefer it to be a higher resolution than lower and would be willing to overclock.Now, im not really sure when im going to build it, you see, a friend of mine fell into some money and would be getting it for me but idk really when he will actually get it and idk how long after that he will wait to buy it but id say some time in the next month - month and a half. Now like i said this is my first time doing this and idk what the hell im doing but my first build was around a intel cpu and my friend told me that either intel or Dell pc's have a problem with something called OpenGl..and one of the things i plan to get on the pc is minecraft which requires opengl to work.thats the reason i tried to find something not intel and went with AMD... And as far as putting saving towards things like chair keyboard mouse monitor, i already got that stuff covered...i just need the things i posted to be between 1300 - 1700 dollars. now, i did choose a sound card at the last minute in the build b4 posting cause i had read somewhere that people not using one and just using the on board audio didnt have as good sound quality and i thought it might be better to just have a sound card thrown in. so get back to me when possible and let me know if that opengl thing is a problem with Intel CPU's or if my friend was mistaken so i can start this bad boy over...and thank you for the post reply
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:48 AM   #4
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Intel's integrated graphics is probably the reason for bad openGL, not the processor (intel cpu + discrete gpu = fine).

Also, apevia PSUs are just awful. I've seen parts just break while attempting to plug in the power cord. I'll try and come with a better build.
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:28 AM   #5
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well thank you cause i know i could use all the help i can get at this point
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Onboard audio is fine with any good motherboard, unless your audio system is worth thousands of dollars you'll get a bigger impact on audio quality by putting that cash toward a better headset/speakers.

CPU: 3570k or 2500k. 3570k should perform slightly better at same clock, and use less power at same clock, though heat dissipation seems to be a problem due to the smaller die size, so you may get lower temperatures with the 2500k (the 2500k produces more heat, but dumps it more easily). You can't go wrong with either chip. 3570k will be out at the end of the month. 2500k is available now.
mobo: z77 or z68 chipset mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128543
CPU cooler: http://www.nansgaminggear.com/apps/w...s/show/2691903
GPU: radeon 7850
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226288
Case whatever looks good, but you don't need a full tower case, just something that will fit a 16 cm heatsink and long video cards. Maybe an antec p280?
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167095
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148725
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817371055
alternative modular PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817194085
Optical: DVD burner
Case fans

the above should come in around 1200-1300. If you want to spend a bit more you can bump the video card up to a 7870, but I'd do that after getting a 120hz display. If you want to spend less on PSU you can get a less efficient model.

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I think right now with the IB samples tested, the general consensus is that IB is better clock for clock, but that SB can outclock IB (at least with less effort). Granted, this is on samples- a lot of crazy conjecture comes up during this phase. The main thing to remember is that IB is more like a patch than a sequel to SB and SB already handles gaming with aplomb. It's pretty unlikely that we'll see any notable (real-life) differences between the two from a gaming perspective.

The ram suggested is 1.35V which is the 'green' (low power) version. The regular 1.5V DDR3 costs about $5 more. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226191

Other good SSD are the Samsung 830 series and the Crucial M4 series. The Samsung is about the same as Intel, but I think is more balanced in terms of performance, while the Crucial M4 is cheaper and tiny bit slower.

Also the Seasonic 620W modular PSU is about $90. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151095
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Old 04-16-2012, 06:19 AM   #8
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@Sparky: Ill probably go with the 3570k since i wont be getting it until after it comes out, but just wanted to make sure that was opengl friendly. ill also go with with 7870, since i plan to get a Sony Bravia 1080p LCD HDTV. Also, would it be safe to substitute the case you posted with the original one that i posted. Thanks

@C.W.: Thanks. Ill make sure to check out those pieces.

Also, would this be a good choice for the Radeon 7870:SAPPHIRE 11199-03-20G Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card OC
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That case will fit the heatsink and video cards yes. If you're getting a 7870 you may consider a (likely smaller) 1080p monitor with a 120hz refresh rate. There is a tradeoff, a 120hz TN panel won't have the viewing angle or color reproduction of an IPS or PVA panel, but it will be smoother in game, and likely have less input lag(this depends on the controller).

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Would you have any recommendations on a good monitor. I was on Newegg and saw this one that looked nice, but idk if there is a better one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236059
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