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Old 02-02-2013, 03:51 PM   #1
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First off, thanks for the amazing website. Lots of great info, it's been a real help so far. Although I have done a lot of reading, I'd like to have an opinion on my choices and also need a few questions answered if possible. So here it goes.

Case:Thermaltake Commander MS-I Snow Edition ATX Mid Tower USB3.0 (VN40006W2N)

Mobo:ASRock Z77 Extreme3 Socket 1155 Intel Z77 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 2800+(O.C.) MHz, 3x PCI-Express x16
- GLAN, 4x SATA 3.0Gb/s, 2x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 4x USB 2.0
- D-Sub/DVI/HDMI, ATX

CPU:Intel Core i5-3570 Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.4Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm (Retail Boxed) Gen3 (BX80637I53570)

Cooler:Zalman LQ-310 Ultimate Liquid CPU Cooler LQ Series

Memory:Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 DIMMs, w/XMP (KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX)

Hdd:Seagate Barracuda (ST1000DM003) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1TB 64MB Cache (OEM)

SSD:Kingston SSDNow V+200 60GB 7mm SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SSD) (SVP200S37A/60G)

Video card:ASUS (GTX660-DC2O-2GD5) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB GDDR5
- 1085 MHz Clock, 6008 MHz Memory
- PCI Express 3.0, Display Port, DVI, HDMI

PSU:Corsair Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W 80PLUS Bronze Certified Power Supply (CP-9020042-NA)

Blu-ray drive:LG (WH14NS40 BDXL) Internal 14x Blu-ray Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA BDXL, 3D Play Back.

My questions have to with the MOBO, video card and psu.
MOBO: I have noticed that most people use gigabyte or asus, any particular reason? Is asrock a good choice?
VIDEO CARD: I'm undecided between gtx 560 and gtx 660 for the following reasons. 1: Memory interface, 256 vs 192 and 2: gtx 660 non 3D compatible.(I might be interested in the future)
PSU: not sure how to verify if ATX12V version is compatible.

Does this make any sense??
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Old 02-02-2013, 05:21 PM   #2
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MOBO: I have noticed that most people use gigabyte or asus, any particular reason? Is asrock a good choice?
ASRock are lower quality than Gigabyte and ASUS, but they are cheaper. If you can afford a Gigabyte board, use that, if not, then stick with what you have.

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VIDEO CARD: I'm undecided between gtx 560 and gtx 660 for the following reasons. 1: Memory interface, 256 vs 192 and 2: gtx 660 non 3D compatible.(I might be interested in the future)
I don't know whare that came from. The 660 is perfectly 3D compatible, and is superior to the 560.
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PSU: not sure how to verify if ATX12V version is compatible.
You don't need to worry about that. The TX650 V2 will be fine, as will any decent PSU on the market.

I also wouldn't bother water cooling if you aren't going to overclock (which you can't do with that CPU). Just use a CoolerMaster Hyper 212.

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Old 02-02-2013, 06:49 PM   #3
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Basically agree with c.hegge's comments above.

A few additional comments.

ASRock motherboards in general are OK, but are not quite as "refined" as Asus and Gigabyte motherboards.

I am currently using an overclocked (on demand) ASRock Z77 Fatal1ty Performance motherboard with no problems.

Video card memory bits is not as important as the memory bandwidth. The GTX660 has higher memory and shader bandwidth compared to the GTX560. And the GTX660 consumes slightly less power than the GTX560.

3D rendering is fine on the GTX660. If there is doubt see here.

The GTX660 is recommended over the GTX560, in terms of better performance and reduced power consumption.

Most (good quality) PSU's today are to ATX spec, so there shouldn't be an issue here.

750 Watts PSU is really far more than is required to power your proposed system. According to load calculations, a minimum of around 400W is suggested. But allowing for an extra safety margin, a >= 450W PSU would be better. A suggested PSU is here.
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My questions have to with the MOBO, video card and psu.
MOBO: I have noticed that most people use gigabyte or asus, any particular reason? Is asrock a good choice?
Asus and Gigabyte have a longer history and reputation. But Asrock has rocketed to third place I think based on price but not lower quality.

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Today this is the junior mainboard model in the Z77 Extreme series, its price is quite low, but we do not see any signs of a cheap or sloppily made product. On the contrary, the board looks more expensive than it is actually priced, it is made just as thoroughly and neatly as the top ASRock mainboards with a much higher price tag.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mai...3_9.html#sect0
Like the Asus and Gigabyte boards some reviewers have panned it and others like it very much. At this moment Asrock is the number 3 motherboard manufactuerer in total sales.
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Old 02-04-2013, 08:02 AM   #5
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Just a quick history lesson: ASRock was originally a spin-off from ASUS, to produce low-end motherboards. However, nowadays they are separate companies, even though they buy components together to save money with vendors. But the R&D teams are separate and ASRock is trying to get rid of this old image they have, of being a tier 2 manufacturer.
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That's an interesting history lesson.
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Here is a negative view of Asrock:


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Let me start with what I did not like with the ASRock Z77 Extreme4. Much like Dan has shown you, this motherboard’s PCB is extremely thin. It is simply not what you would think when it comes to enthusiast class hardware. When I pulled the motherboard out of the box, as I normally would with one hand, I had real concerns that it would snap in two, or at least damage the motherboard somehow due to how it was flopping around. The motherboard however did not snap in two nor did components come flying off the PCB. So beyond all feelings about the PCB, there was a real impact to this. Now keep in mind I have mounted this Koolance water block hundreds of time. When I took the water block off at the end of testing, this is what I found.
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The ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is a cheaply built full featured motherboard that will surely find its place with the budget conscious enthusiast looking for a deep feature set and a well designed piece of hardware. There are some caveats to be aware of, but nothing you cannot work around as long as you have those in mind when it comes to cooling. You can pick up the ASRock Z77 Extreme4 at Amazon for $134.99 with Free Prime Shipping.

http://hardocp.com/article/2013/02/06/asrock_z77_extreme4_lga_1155_motherboard_review/6
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:45 PM   #8
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Thanks to all for the comments and suggestions. I've had to make a few adjustments and here is my final build (as soon as I receive all my parts!):

Case:Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case Black USB3.0

Mobo:ASRock Z77 Extreme3 Socket 1155 Intel Z77 Chipset
- Dual Channel DDR3 2800+(O.C.) MHz, 3x PCI-Express x16
- GLAN, 4x SATA 3.0Gb/s, 2x SATA 6.0Gb/s, 2x USB 3.0, 4x USB 2.0
- D-Sub/DVI/HDMI, ATX

CPU:Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Socket LGA1155, 3.4Ghz, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm (Retail Boxed) Gen3 (BX806237I53570K)

Cooler:Thermaltake Water 2.0 Performer (CLW0215) All-In-One Liquid Cooling System

Memory:Kingston HyperX Genesis 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9 DIMMs, w/XMP (KHX1600C9D3K2/8GX)

Hdd:Seagate Barracuda (ST1000DM003) SATA3 6.0Gb/s 1TB 64MB Cache (OEM)

SSD:ADATA S510 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid Sate Drive (SSD), Read: 550MB/s Write: 510MB/s (AS510S3-120GM-C) OR Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (MZ-7TD120BW)

Video card:ASUS (GTX660-DC2O-2GD5) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2GB GDDR5
- 1085 MHz Clock, 6008 MHz Memory
- PCI Express 3.0, Display Port, DVI, HDMI

PSU:XFX 650W PRO650W Core Edition Single Rail ATX 12V 53A 24PIN ATX Power Supply 80PLUS Bronze PSU

Blu-ray drive:LG (WH14NS40 BDXL) Internal 14x Blu-ray Writer, OEM
- Black, SATA BDXL, 3D Play Back.

OS: Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit English OEM

I'll let you know what it's like as soon as it's up and running. Once again thank's for the input.
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I like the changes smart bang for the buck.

The XFX psu gives up a bit of efficiency, convenience, not modular, but saves a few bucks and will provide all the power needed for an upgraded video card in the future.

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