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Old 02-25-2013, 05:21 PM   #1
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Default Need 5.5" (140 mm) deep PSU Recommendation, New Build

I'd very much appreciate recommendations on PSUs that are 5.5" (140 mm) deep.

(Just to be clear, and OK by me, reviews on this site use deep where I would use length.)

I'm building a new machine, for the first time with new parts, but the roomy case I really want to keep and use has a blowhole that restricts the depth of the PSU to 5.5"/140mm.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp calculates I need a "recommended" 457 watts. I did add a couple of HDDs and a Blu-ray that I don't yet have.

I'm not a gamer or an overclocker. I do stream video. I will keep the PSU for more than a year; the machine is usually on 16-or-so hours a day, sometimes 24.

And I'd prefer a little headroom for future expansion.
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Below is what I'll be running:

*Asus F1A75-V EVO
http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/F1A7...specifications

*AMD A8 3870K
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AM...70WNZ43GX.html

*EVGA e-GeForce 9600 GSO 384MB PCIe
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...specifications
(Don't really need this card but it was free, has 2 DVI ports, and I run 2 monitors. I can downgrade here.)

*G.Skill Ares f3-1866c10d-16gab [2x8GB]
http://gskill.com/products.php?index=486

*DVD, USB PCI card, fans.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:22 PM   #2
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XFX Core Edition Pro 550W at 140 x 150 x 86 here maybe?
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:20 AM   #3
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This guy, although not the best, is 140 mm deep: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1704
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Old 02-28-2013, 09:39 AM   #4
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Brispuss & Gabriel, thank you both! I thoroughly researched both units online and you both made excellent suggestions. And I learned a little about power supplies.

After much mulling, dithering, and back-and-forth, I've just ordered the Silverstone, from Newegg. Mainly because of the modular cables, a first for me, but also to a lesser extent for the extra 100 watt headroom.

So thank you both again.
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1) I'm very glad to find your forum!

2) I'm a member of one other forum, http://windowssecrets.com/forums/, which looks a lot like yours and might be the same software. The Windows Secrets forum includes a "Thanks" button where you can thank other members for their response. In my opinion, that'd be nice to have on your forum. Some Windows Secrets members have a lot of thanks and that gives you some indication of their knowledge in an area. One personal example of how it works is here: http://windowssecrets.com/forums/sho...l=1#post866397

3) http://windowssecrets.com/forums/ also has a "Test Area" where you can test posts; I've personally found it most useful in figuring out formatting and imaging problems. Entries in the Test Area are periodically deleted.

4) Thanks for hearing the newbie out; I'll shut up now. Thanks again for the spot-on suggestions.

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Old 03-06-2013, 05:11 PM   #6
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An addendum: the SilverStone Strider PSU arrived today. On the back of the box and only on the back of the box I find "... short cable kit such as SilverStone's PP05."

The PP05 is a separate purchase. Modular 550mm cables that come with the Strider are 350mm in the short cable kit, and other cables in the kit are commensurately shorter. Best price I found for the kit was $25 at Newegg.

I wish I'd known about the short cable kit when I ordered the Strider, and I'd like to pass this information along for what it's worth.

I did order the kit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812162010
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Cables that come with the SilverStone ST65F-G
1 x 24 / 20-Pin motherboard connector550mm
1 x 8 / 4-Pin EPS / ATX 12V connector550mm
2 x 8 / 6-Pin PCIE connector550mm
2 x 6-Pin PCIE connector550mm / 150mm
8 x SATA connector500mm / 150mm / 150mm
6 x 4-Pin Peripheral connector 500mm / 150mm / 150mm
2 x 4-Pin Floppy connector500mm / 150mm / 150mm / 150mm
http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...id=350&area=en
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Short Cable Set (SilverStone Model PP05) for SilverStone Strider Series Modular PSU (Separate Purchase)
1 x 20+4pin ATX adapter (350mm)
1 x EPS/ATX12V 8pin(4+4) connector (350mm)
4 x PCI-E 8pin(6+2) connector (350mm)
1 x two (2) SATA 90°connectors (350+50mm)
1 x two (2) SATA 180°connectors (300+150mm)
1 x two (2) 4pin connectors (300+100mm)
1 x two (2) 4pin + floppy connectors (350+100+100mm)
http://www.silverstonetek.com/produc...id=219&area=#1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812162010
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Old 03-06-2013, 06:17 PM   #7
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This might be a better place to post your useful information.

http://forums.hardwaresecrets.com/si...6578#post26578
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Follow-up, or, Live and Learn.

1) Short cables vs. Standard length cables.--I ended up mostly using the standard length cables because I found I could tuck them behind the 5¼" bay cage, out of sight. The short cables would cross over the system board.

Glad I bought the short cables, though: the education was worth the $25 price.

2) PSU noisy fan.--The SilverStone ST65F-G fan starts about 3 seconds after power on, makes noise, is incessant, and borders on annoying.

The noise sounds like this, at 50% volume, just a tad lower-pitched: http://whitenoisemp3s.com/lavatory-3-am.html

Any counsel out there on remedies?

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From what I have read this unit has an aggressive fan profile that I'm not certain you can or want to tinker with.

One option you do have is to purchase a very high quality high price replacement fan that runs more quietly or a very cheap fan that doesn't cool as well, which would make it more quiet.

The easiest option is to use headphones when cranking up the power or learn to live with the noise.

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The cooling fan is provided by a good manufacturer, ADDA, but it uses sleeve bearing instead of the ball bearings that lasts much longer. Its model number is AD1212MS-A71GL (12V, 0.34 A, 2050 RPM, 80.5 CFM, and 38 dBA), and the fan speed control circuit fortunately doesn't let it to go above 1735 RPM. However, the fan profile is very aggressive once the ambient reaches 40°C.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/S...ST65F-G/4.html
Note the fan has sleeve bearings, which is usually quieter than ball bearings.

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The ST60F-PS power supply fan speed starts out relatively slow and is very quiet through ~50% load with relatively cool ambient temperatures. At full load with the simulated case air temperature increasing, the fan really ramped up and became very noticeable.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-a...ency-Different
All this is assuming you don't have a defective fan that is abnormally loud, which is the norm.

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Merman, thank you, again!

I'm going to just live with this fan and its noise, for the while.

I don't think the machine is overheating. Even when the unheated building it's in has temperatures in the mid-thirties, when I turn the machine on the fan goes into overdrive in about 3 seconds.

Air coming in, at max CFS rating-
Front 79 CFS
Side 41 CFS
Not including PSU fan, Air out-
Rear 42 CFS
Top unknown (92mm fan) This fan has some cables in front of it.

The area across the system board and CPU is unobstructed. The heat sink is not hot or even warm to the touch.

It's been running 8+ hours and Speedfan 4.44 reports
HD0 34°C
Temp1 32°C
Temp2 30°C
Temp3 127°C
CPU 41°C
Local 39°C
Remote2 41°C
GPU 0°C
HD0 32°C
I'm presuming Temp3 is somehow off.

It's a learning experience.

Thanks again.
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