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Old 03-03-2013, 07:31 AM   #1
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Hi, i'm trying to construct a pc for gaming and not for show off that i'm a gamer (with a budget of $1000). first of all my components:

Core i5 3570k ivy bridge.
ssd 64 Gb sata3.
Sapphire HD 7850 ddr5.
Ram kingston 1600 (8 mb/ dual channel).

I'm not going to use another hard disc (all the games are in another drive so i will transfer the game to the ssd only when it is needed), i'm not a real gamer, so i'm not going to use croosfire, i will not use any optical device, not usb, this pc is just for gaming.
And now my problems:
Using a power supply calculator i found that i only need 271W, so is my power supply, an acteck blazer 400w, good enough? If not please recommend.

There are too many Mother Boards for gaming, all of then close to the $200. but i think that the only thing i need is not bottled necked my other components. I found a Mother Board for just $85 with a dual channel for ram (up to 16mg), good sound system, only 1 sata3 port (just what i need) and with a Z77 or B75 chipset with the same bus speed (4Gb/s). And at last my question: is the GA-Z77M-D3H, GA-B75M-D3H, or an Asus with chipset Z77 or B75 good enougth for gaming with my components? (I will not overclock)

The last question, Should i get a new power supply or is better to get a case with a power supply included?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Old 03-04-2013, 12:47 AM   #2
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Hi, i'm trying to construct a pc for gaming . . (with a budget of $1000). first of all my components:

Core i5 3570k ivy bridge.
ssd 64 Gb sata3.
Sapphire HD 7850 ddr5.
Ram kingston 1600 (8 mb/ dual channel).

. .(I will not overclock)
Suggested components.

CPU: Intel i5-3570

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H

SSD: Samsung 840 Pro

Video Card: Sapphire HD 7950

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Using a power supply calculator i found that i only need 271W, so is my power supply, an acteck blazer 400w, good enough? If not please recommend.
Using the above suggested components, the approximate power requirement is around 250~300W. But allowing for PSU derating due to aging, and adding a bit of a safety margin, a PSU of around 350~400+W is ample.

The Acteck Blazer 400W PSU seems to have enough capacity. However, this PSU has unknown componentry and performance. So it can't really be recommended.

Suggested PSU's are -

Seasonic G-450
Seasonic S12II 430


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Should i get a new power supply or is better to get a case with a power supply included?
Power supply units included with cases are usually of low/poor quality. There is a high risk of these PSU's failing and/or damaging other components.

Definitely get a new reliable power supply unit, as suggested above!
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:21 AM   #3
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Thank you for your help. I will get the PSU you recommend, the ssd too and if a have enough money the video card. But I have some questions, why do you recommend me the i5 3570 and not the 3570k? is the difference in money not worthy? please tell me. Regarding the Mother Board, the one you recommend cost twiece the one I want to use and has the same chipset and the same bus speed, the difference are the number of sata3 ports and another couple of things I don't understand. so please tell me why should i spend more money in the Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD4H? I will apreciate your help thanks BRISPUSS
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As you are not going to overclock the CPU, then the i5-3570 CPU is the more logical and cheaper choice. You can still get the unlocked i5-3570k if you wish and don't overclock it. It will cost a bit more, but still be within your budget

The suggested motherboard (GA-Z77X-UD4H) has more than you need, but it is (or should be) a more reliable model than the other models you've chosen. You could still get the GA-Z77M-D3H model anyway, which is basically OK. But for your budget, it is preferable to get the more reliable components.

The price of components are based on those at Newegg. The price of the GA-Z77X-UD4H is not twice that of the GA-Z77M-D3H. The prices may vary depending on where you live and where you source your components.

And for reference, the Samsung 840 Pro SSD was chosen as it is fast and therefore more suitable for gaming.
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I agree with the suggestions thus far. Bear in mind that your acteck blazer 400w PSU is probably only a 250W with a 400W label. I'd definitely go with the Seasonic G-450 if at all possible.
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The answers you received might be better if where you are shopping was known. Guessing Mexico from the name of the psu mentioned. Pricing and availability is different for different countries.
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I can not find the sugested PSU, here is the list of all the PSU i can get from my supplier: ($1000 MXP = $75 USD)
COOLER MASTER 460 WATTS CAJA ELITE POWER $ 515 MXP
COOLER MASTER 475 WATS CAJA EXTREME $ 600 MXP
COOLER MASTER 525 WATTS CAJA EXTREME $ 680 MXP
COOLER MASTER 600 WATTS CAJA EXTREME $ 920 MX
COOLER MASTER 625 WATTS EXTREME II CAJA $ 890 MXP

THERMALTAKE PUREPOWER 550W $ 890 MXP
THERMALTAKE TR2 430W $ 700 MXP
THERMALTAKE TR2 500 WATTS $ 770 MXP
THERMALTAKE TR2 600 WATTS $ 860 MXP

At last my components:
Core i5 3570 ivy bridge.
GA-Z77X-UD4H.
Samsung 840 Pro.
Sapphire HD 7850 ddr5.
Ram kingston 1600 (8 mb/ dual channel).
THERMALTAKE TR2 600 WATTS.

Thanks to every one
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All these power supplies are not recommended. They are low-end units that will damage your computer. See for yourself:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1550

These brands only sell these pieces of **** outside the U.S. (Mexico in your case)
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thank you all for the advices. I found a good review about the thermaltake TR2 700W (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1422), so I hope I can get all the pieces together for the next weekend. THANKS A LOT TO EVERYONE.
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I had the 600W version of that TR2, and wasn't overly impressed by it. It was noisy, the soldering was horrible, the caps were iffy quality, and it was overpriced. I couldget better products (ie. OCZ ZS series 650W) for $40 cheaper.
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