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Old 04-07-2013, 02:19 PM   #1
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Hello Everybody:

I am new to this forum. Main purpose of joining is to learn more about PC hard-wares “secrets” so that I can build a PC unit by myself from scratch including preparing the part list of key components.

In the meantime, I would like your second opinion on a Custom PC I am planning to get built by someone who sells parts and builds PC’s for a fee. I am not into gaming but I was a power user when employed, and now mostly use Office 2010, Email (Outlook) and Internet browsing and watching HD movies on PC as well as on Flat-screen LG TV.

The selected part list: (budget about $700, excl Monitor, KB and mouse, printer) is as follows:

1) MB: Asus P8Z77-V LX; ….http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38590

2) CPU: Intel Core i5 2380p 3.1GHz, OC to 3.7 GHz
http://www.hookbag.ca/product/H3C06M...58243827-intel

3) Ram: DDR3, 8GB Kingston Hyper-X Genesis (2 channels, 2x4GB)
GPU: Radeon HD7850

4) Power Supply, OCZ Mod X Stream Pro 500W ATX

5) SSD, 120GB ocz vertex 3;…..http://www.directdial.com/VTX3LP-25SAT3-120G.html

6) HDD: 1TB; ……http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX40404

7) Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I Snow Edition, http://www.ashlin.ca/p/Computer_Casi...1021990857.htm

8) OS: Win-7 Professional 64-bits (I do have a licensed CD)

Any recommendations are appreciated…. Particularly in respect to CPU and GPU

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Old 04-07-2013, 06:17 PM   #2
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Personally, if I had the extra cash, I would try to go for an i7. Everything else looks great! I have an Asus motherboard similar to that model and I love it. If you are looking for any other info, I stumbled upon this page: How to Build a Gaming PC for Under $500 2013
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I wouldn't bother with an i7. I'd go with an i5 3570K. The performance difference between that an i7 would hardly be noticeable.
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Personally, if I had the extra cash, I would try to go for an i7. Everything else looks great! I have an Asus motherboard similar to that model and I love it. If you are looking for any other info, I stumbled upon this page: How to Build a Gaming PC for Under $500 2013
Many thanks for your prompt response. Thanks also for the LINK to "How to Build a Gaming PC for Under $500 2013".

I am not restricted by budget constraint. The "builder" (the one that is selling me the parts and building the PC) initially suggested: Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA1155 77W Quad-Core CPU HD Graphics 4000. But, I asked for i5 as I was concerned about the "heating issues" with i7 CPU. He claims i5-2380p is faster than the newer i5-3570, which prompted me to seek second opinion at this forum.


Overview of the CPU:
Intel Core i5-2380P Processor 3.10 GHz, 32nm, , 6 MB L3 Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0, LGA-1155 package ** Without Graphics **To support increased customer demand for 2nd gen Intel Core i5 desktop processors and to offer product options, Intel has made a decision to productize 3 special 2nd gen Intel Core i5 SKU’s that are without processor graphics for configurations using discrete graphics only. Built-in Visuals (Intel Quick Sync Video, Intel Insider, Intel HD Graphics, Intel InTru3D, Intel Wireless Display and Intel Clear Video Technology) are not available on these processors. Intel Advanced Vector Technology is enabled.

Question: Which is better, 2380p or 3570 or 3570k, assuming I will seldom use OC.

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I wouldn't bother with an i7. I'd go with an i5 3570K. The performance difference between that an i7 would hardly be noticeable.
Many thanks for your prompt response. Regarding the CPU, please see my earlier response.

Thanks for suggesting that i5 is adequate for my end-use. However, may I know your opinion on i5-2380p, as compared to i5-3570?

May I also know your comments on the GPU, as I am not into "PC gaming", at my age. I just require a good quality Video Card for HD movie on the PC monitor as well as on HDTV.

GPU: Radeon HD7850; … http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38618

Thanks again, for all the help.

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4) Power Supply, OCZ Mod X Stream Pro 500W ATX
Get yourself a newer model and better psu.

Look at the Seasonic, the better made Corsairs with all Japanese capacitors. XFX or PC power and cooling.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1690

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1683
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Question: Which is better, 2380p or 3570 or 3570k, assuming I will seldom use OC.
The 3570/3570K is faster than the 2380p. The only difference between the K and non-K is that the K edition overclocks, while the non-K doesn't
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Get yourself a newer model and better psu.

Look at the Seasonic, the better made Corsairs with all Japanese capacitors. XFX or PC power and cooling.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1690

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/artic...ly-Review/1683
Thanks for your response. I infer from your comments that the "selected" PSU is an older model and may be of average quality!!!

The builder, who is also the seller of parts listed in my initial post, is willing to do it as a package for $750.

Could it be that he is using older and average quality parts that he could buy at deep discount? I wonder??

Thanks again.

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The 3570/3570K is faster than the 2380p. The only difference between the K and non-K is that the K edition overclocks, while the non-K doesn't
Thanks again for your prompt response... for the past 6 months I have been "lurking" this forum/site and have always been reading posts from certain Senior members (which includes you) with great interest... perhaps, coming from the Far-east I have "soft corner" for people from the down-under... ... BTW, I selected i5 CPU because your "rig" uses i5

Having said that, Is it fair to assume that 2380p is an older generation as compared to 3570/3570K?

May be the "builder" is attempting to be "cost effective" to preserve his "margin". I wonder!!!

Please see my comments above, wrt the PSU.

Thanks again

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BTW, I selected i5 CPU because your "rig" uses i5
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Having said that, Is it fair to assume that 2380p is an older generation as compared to 3570/3570K?
Yes. i3/i5/i7 2____ means it's a 2nd Gen (Sandy Bridge). 3rd Generation CPUs have 3____ as the model number.

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May be the "builder" is attempting to be "cost effective" to preserve his "margin". I wonder!!!

Please see my comments above, wrt the PSU.

Thanks again
Maybe he is.

I would definitely choose one of those two Seasonic PSUs over the ModXstream if your builder offers it at an affordable price, as they are far better products in all respects.

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Hehe. Thanks

Yes. i3/i5/i7 2____ means it's a 2nd Gen (Sandy Bridge). 3rd Generation CPUs have 3____ as the model number.

Maybe he is.

I would definitely choose one of those two Seasonic PSUs over the ModXstream if your builder offers it at an affordable price, as they are far better products in all respects.
Many thanks, C.hegge, for your suggestions and clarifications. I shall follow through, particularly wrt the PSU.

But, I never got any critical comments from anybody about the GPU which is Radeon HD7850; … http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX38618
BTW, In my part list, GPU is the most expensive component, i.e. some $200+. Is it an overkill???, considering I am not into Gaming and would like to be able to view HD videos/movies using the PC/Monitor.

Changing to OT, I notice from your rig description that you are using Win-XP Pro for OS and not Win-7 Pro-64 bits. I am sure you must have a very valid reason for doing so, just curious to know.

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But, I never got any critical comments from anybody about the GPU which is Radeon HD7850; …

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This should help if not say so and we will address any concerms you may have.

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