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Old 11-25-2004, 05:49 AM   #1
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Many users and technicians must have already noticed that CD-ROM drives have an output called SPDIF and many sound cards, especially the more expensive sort, also have a connector labelled SPDIF. But ...

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Old 04-27-2009, 07:13 PM   #2
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I am no expert in digital audio connections, but after reading the S/PDIF article, i was left speechless. Is not S/PDIF a two channel digital audio format, as opposed to the digital bitstream audio that is supplied as the standard black or orage connector on the back of home theater receivers/DVD players, etc?

My dillemma is this. I have 6 JBL studio monitors and two monitor subs, all with one S/PDIF input and one output each, among others, such as analog and AES/EBU(digital XLR). I want to connect them to some sound card to have surround audio from a PC. I first (without having learned about S/PDIF) tried connecting the digital output from the DVD player to the front left speaker, then daisy chaining them all around to the other speakers via S/PDIF inputs and outputs. Uhhhhhh.....no way. Didnt work. The best that I could get was stereo.

After much investigation and research, I learned that S/PDIF is only a digital pair, and carries only two signals, say a left and right, a center and sub, rears, etc. Not all of the surround signals could be transmitted through one S/PDIF cable.

I then learned that you need MULTIPLE S/PDIF outputs, usually 3 of them, assigned as L/R, C/S, RL/RR. VERY high end equipment such as the Meridian G61R pre-amp have these, but those cost 8K and up.

So........how to connect these speakers to a PC. I need multiple S/PDIF outputs. Your article suggests that the "orange" outputs are S/PDIF outputs, but they carry more than a digital pair of signals. They carry all of the channels, no????? Is there not a difference?????? Help please.
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Hello Cee Jay,

Sorry about not answering you before, for some reason I didn't see your original post.

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I am no expert in digital audio connections, but after reading the S/PDIF article, i was left speechless. Is not S/PDIF a two channel digital audio format, as opposed to the digital bitstream audio that is supplied as the standard black or orage connector on the back of home theater receivers/DVD players, etc?
Both are the same thing. SPDIF is the name of this digital connection you are talking about; the black connector you mention is probably the optical connector (Toslink) and the orange connector is the coaxial connector.

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My dillemma is this. I have 6 JBL studio monitors and two monitor subs, all with one S/PDIF input and one output each, among others, such as analog and AES/EBU(digital XLR). I want to connect them to some sound card to have surround audio from a PC. I first (without having learned about S/PDIF) tried connecting the digital output from the DVD player to the front left speaker, then daisy chaining them all around to the other speakers via S/PDIF inputs and outputs. Uhhhhhh.....no way. Didnt work. The best that I could get was stereo.
Of course it won't. The digital connection will carry a bitstream representing all the six channels. You will need to either find a way to configure each speaker to "tune in" to a certain channel (i.e. find a way to configure speaker 1 as front left, speaker 2 as front right, and so on) or to use a some sort of device to make this separation for you. If you post here the exact model you have I may research this for you.

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After much investigation and research, I learned that S/PDIF is only a digital pair, and carries only two signals, say a left and right, a center and sub, rears, etc. Not all of the surround signals could be transmitted through one S/PDIF cable.
This is not correct. This connection will carry all channels available. Otherwise a single SPDIF connection between a DVD player or Blu-Ray player and a home theater receiver would only play stereo and you would need three wires, which is not the case (only one is needed).

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I then learned that you need MULTIPLE S/PDIF outputs, usually 3 of them, assigned as L/R, C/S, RL/RR. VERY high end equipment such as the Meridian G61R pre-amp have these, but those cost 8K and up.
As explained, the problem is that you need to find a way for your speakers to "catch" the right signal from the digital stream. If they do not have a configuration switch on themselves to configure each one of them as front left, front right, rear left, rear right, the only way is by installing a device like the one mentioned. Probably your speakers do not have such configuration because they are intended to work under stereo mode only.

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So........how to connect these speakers to a PC. I need multiple S/PDIF outputs. Your article suggests that the "orange" outputs are S/PDIF outputs, but they carry more than a digital pair of signals. They carry all of the channels, no????? Is there not a difference?????? Help please.
Explained above.

From all you posted it seems that the problem is with your studio speakers: they were designed to tune in only to the front left and front right channels only, because they were projected to be working only on a stereo environment, not on a 5.1 config. If you post the exact model we can download the manual and take a deeper look.

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